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		<title>Are Marvel or DC Movies Better? A Research Survey</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>B. McKenzie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an update of my original survey of the average Rotten Tomatoes ranking of Marvel and DC comic book movies. The two changes are: I&#8217;ve included the movies that have come out in the past year (X-Men: First Class, Thor and Green Lantern). A few people thought that it would be fairer to look [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an update of <a href="http://www.superheronation.com/2010/06/28/is-there-a-quality-difference-between-marvel-and-dc-movies/">my original survey</a> of the average Rotten Tomatoes ranking of Marvel and DC comic book movies. The two changes are:</p>
<ol>
<li>I&#8217;ve included the movies that have come out in the past year (X-Men: First Class, Thor and Green Lantern).</li>
<li>A few people thought that it would be fairer to look at only the current wave of superhero movies (starting in 2000 with X-Men).  I&#8217;ve added a section comparing both companies&#8217; performance post-2000.</li>
</ol>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Summary</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">Including the older movies, the average Rotten Tomato score was 50.2% for DC and 58.1% for Marvel.  If we look only at the modern movies, the gap narrows somewhat.  Since 2000, DC has averaged 54.8% and Marvel has averaged 59.9%.</p>
</li>
<li>Marvel has been having more critical success with more series.  Since 2000, DC&#8217;s non-Batman movies have averaged 47.1%.  Since 2000, Marvel&#8217;s non-Spiderman movies have averaged 55.8% and its non-X-Men movies have averaged 56.4%.</li>
</ul>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span id="more-10493"></span>DC Movies</h3>
<p><strong>A-Grade (80+ on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
The Dark Knight-94%<br />
Superman-94% *<br />
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm-87% *<br />
Batman Begins-85%<br />
Superman II-83% *</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>B-Grade (60-79 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Batman Returns-77%*<br />
Superman Returns-76%<br />
V for Vendetta-73%<br />
Batman-71%<br />
Watchmen-64%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>C-Grade (40-59 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
The Losers-47%<br />
Constantine-46%<br />
Batman Forever-44%*</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>D-Grade (20-39 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Green Lantern &#8211; 25% (after three days of reviews&#8211;this figure may change slightly as more reviews come in)<br />
Superman III-23% *</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>F-Grade (19 or less on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Steel-13% *<br />
Jonah Hex-12%<br />
Batman and Robin-12% *<br />
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace-11% *<br />
Catwoman-10%<br />
Supergirl-8%﻿ *</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">*&#8211;These movies came before 2000.</p>
<h3>Marvel Movies</h3>
<p><strong>A-Grade (80+ on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Spiderman 2-94%<br />
Iron Man-93%<br />
Spiderman-90%<br />
X2: X-Men United-88%<br />
X-Men: First Class-87%<br />
X-Men-81%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>B-Grade (60-79 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Thor-77%<br />
Iron Man 2-73%<br />
Incredible Hulk-66%<br />
Spiderman 3-63%<br />
Hulk-62% (<em>How!?)</em></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>C-Grade (40-59 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Blade II-58% *<br />
X-Men: Last Stand-57%<br />
Blade-55% *<br />
Daredevil-44%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>D-Grade (20-39 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
X-Men Origins: Wolverine-36%<br />
Fantastic Four-36%<br />
The Punisher-30%<br />
FF: Rise of the Silver Surfer-26%<br />
Ghost Rider-26%<br />
Blade Trinity-26% *</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>F-Grade (19 or less on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Elektra-10%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">*&#8211;These movies came before 2000.</p>
<p>Here are some other ways to look at the data.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>ALL OF THE ABOVE MOVIES (REGARDLESS OF YEAR)</strong></p>
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<td width="64">DC</td>
<td width="64">Marvel</td>
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<td height="20">A-grade</td>
<td align="right">24%</td>
<td align="right">27%</td>
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<tr height="20">
<td height="20">B-grade</td>
<td align="right">24%</td>
<td align="right">23%</td>
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<tr height="20">
<td height="20">C-grade</td>
<td align="right">14%</td>
<td align="right">18%</td>
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<tr height="20">
<td height="20">D-grade</td>
<td align="right">10%</td>
<td align="right">27%</td>
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<tr height="20">
<td height="20">F-grade</td>
<td align="right">19%</td>
<td align="right">5%</td>
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<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">Including the older movies, the average Rotten Tomato score was 50.2 for DC and 58.1 for Marvel.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;"><strong>ONLY MODERN MOVIES (SINCE 2000)</strong></p>
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<td width="64">DC</td>
<td width="64">Marvel</td>
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<tr height="20">
<td height="20">A-grade</td>
<td align="right">18%</td>
<td align="right">32%</td>
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<tr height="20">
<td height="20">B-grade</td>
<td align="right">36%</td>
<td align="right">26%</td>
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<td height="20">C-grade</td>
<td align="right">18%</td>
<td align="right">11%</td>
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<tr height="20">
<td height="20">D-grade</td>
<td align="right">9%</td>
<td align="right">26%</td>
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<td height="20">F-grade</td>
<td align="right">18%</td>
<td align="right">5%</td>
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<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">Excluding the older movies, the average Rotten Tomato score was 54.8% for DC and 59.9% for Marvel.  That&#8217;s closer, although Marvel movies are still a bit better on average.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">&nbsp;</p>
<p>Some other trends that stuck out.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>In the modern era, Marvel is having more critical success with more series. </strong>In the modern era, DC averaged 54.8% with all movies included, but 47.1% in non-Batman movies.  Marvel averaged 59.9% with all movies included and 55.8 in non-Spiderman movies and 56.4 in movies without X-Men.  In the modern era, DC has had 4 non-Batman movies rated A-grade or B-grade.  Over the same period, Marvel has had 8 non-Spiderman and 8 non-X-Men A-grade or B-grade movies.  <strong> </strong></li>
<li><strong>Hollywood is still as inept with female leads as it was 25 years ago. </strong>Elektra (10%) and Catwoman (10%) turned out as bad as 1984&#8242;s Supergirl (8%).  That probably can&#8217;t just be attributed to budget: Catwoman had a production budget of <a href="http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=catwoman.htm">$100 million</a> in 2004 and Elektra had <a href="http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=elektra.htm">$43 million</a> in 2005.  According to IMDB, Supergirl&#8217;s budget was <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088206/trivia">$35 million</a>, which (if adjusted for inflation) works out to about $80 million in 2005.  Other films did much better with comparable budgets, such as X-Men (<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120903/business">$75 million in 2000</a>).  That said, most of the above movies had budgets between $100-200 million.</li>
</ul>
<p>Questions? Concerns?  Other comments?  Please let me know and I might incorporate them when I update the survey with more recent releases.</p>
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<td width="64">Marvel</td>
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<td height="20">A-grade</td>
<td align="right">25%</td>
<td align="right">25%</td>
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<td height="20">B-grade</td>
<td align="right">25%</td>
<td align="right">20%</td>
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<td height="20">C-grade</td>
<td align="right">15%</td>
<td align="right">20%</td>
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<td height="20">D-grade</td>
<td align="right">5%</td>
<td align="right">30%</td>
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<td height="20">F-grade</td>
<td align="right">30%</td>
<td align="right">5%</td>
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		<title>Is there a quality difference between Marvel and DC movies?</title>
		<link>http://www.superheronation.com/2010/06/28/is-there-a-quality-difference-between-marvel-and-dc-movies/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>B. McKenzie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judging by ratings on Rotten Tomatoes, DC movies do almost as well on average (although its bombs tend to be uniquely awful). For the sake of convenience and clean numbers, I took the top 20 grossing movies from each publisher and then gathered their Rotten Tomato rankings, which are averages of hundreds or thousands of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging by ratings on Rotten Tomatoes, DC movies do almost as well on average (although its bombs tend to be uniquely awful).</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p>For the sake of convenience and clean numbers, I took the top 20 grossing movies from each publisher and then gathered their Rotten Tomato rankings, which are averages of hundreds or thousands of reviews.  (A RT ranking isn&#8217;t a perfect measure of quality, but it&#8217;s probably pretty accurate).</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<h3><span id="more-6471"></span>DC Movies</h3>
<p><strong>A-Grade (80+ on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
The Dark Knight-94%<br />
Superman-94%<br />
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm-87%<br />
Batman Begins-85%<br />
Superman II-83%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p><strong>B-Grade (60-79 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Batman Returns-77%<br />
Superman Returns-76%<br />
V for Vendetta-73%<br />
Batman-71%<br />
Watchmen-64%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p><strong>C-Grade (40-59 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
The Losers-47%<br />
Constantine-46%<br />
Batman Forever-44%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p><strong>D-Grade (20-39 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Superman III-23%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p><strong>F-Grade (19 or less on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Steel-13%<br />
Jonah Hex-12%<br />
Batman and Robin-12%<br />
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace-11%<br />
Catwoman-10%<br />
Supergirl-8%﻿</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<h3>Marvel Movies</h3>
<p><strong>A-Grade (80+ on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Spiderman 2-94%<br />
Iron Man-93%<br />
Spiderman-90%<br />
X2: X-Men United-88% (<em>How!?</em>)<br />
X-Men-81%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p><strong>B-Grade (60-79 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Iron Man 2-73%<br />
Incredible Hulk-66%<br />
Spiderman 3-63%<br />
Hulk-62% (WTF? I would put this at 20, tops)</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p><strong>C-Grade (40-59 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Blade II-58%<br />
X-Men: Last Stand-57%<br />
Blade-55%<br />
Daredevil-44%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p><strong>D-Grade (20-39 on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
X-Men Origins: Wolverine-36%<br />
Fantastic Four-36%<br />
The Punisher-30%<br />
FF: Rise of the Silver Surfer-26%<br />
Ghost Rider-26%<br />
Blade Trinity-26%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p><strong>F-Grade (19 or less on Rotten Tomatoes)</strong><br />
Elektra-10%</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p>Here are some other ways to look at the data.</p>
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<td width="64">DC</td>
<td width="64">Marvel</td>
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<tr height="20">
<td height="20">A-grade</td>
<td align="right">25%</td>
<td align="right">25%</td>
</tr>
<tr height="20">
<td height="20">B-grade</td>
<td align="right">25%</td>
<td align="right">20%</td>
</tr>
<tr height="20">
<td height="20">C-grade</td>
<td align="right">15%</td>
<td align="right">20%</td>
</tr>
<tr height="20">
<td height="20">D-grade</td>
<td align="right">5%</td>
<td align="right">30%</td>
</tr>
<tr height="20">
<td height="20">F-grade</td>
<td align="right">30%</td>
<td align="right">5%</td>
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<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p>The average Rotten Tomato ranking was 51.5% for DC and 55.7% for Marvel. So the movies on the whole tend to be pretty comparable, although most of the truly horrendous movies were DC.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: .2in;">
<p>Some other trends that stuck out.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Except for possibly Ironman, all of the excellent movies came from the largest franchises</strong> (Batman, Spiderman, X-Men and 1980s Superman).  My theory here is that studios are far more likely to spend on quality actors, screenwriters and directors if they think the franchise has a large-enough fanbase to support the investment.</li>
<li><strong>Movies based around teams or multiple characters tended to do slightly worse than ones with a more singular focus. </strong>Team movies comprised just 16% of the movies that were A-grade or B-grade (3 out of 19).  But they comprised 20% of the total sample.</li>
<li><strong>The three movies centered on a solo female protagonist were unmitigated disasters.</strong> Supergirl, Catwoman and Elektra weren&#8217;t <em>just </em>in the F-grade, but the three worst of all forty surveyed.  Some possible explanations: the studios made a half-assed effort because the franchises were minor and/or because they didn&#8217;t think superheroines would sell well.  Audience discrimination might have played a role, but women reviewers on RT seemed to hate these movies as much as the men did.</li>
<li><strong>The five movies with black leads (the Blade trilogy, Steel and Catwoman) scored an average of 32%</strong>, worse than average (53%) but much better than the movies with female leads (9%).  I&#8217;m a bit surprised black protagonists fared worse than average because Wesley Snipes is actually pretty decent, Halle Berry has won an Oscar, and the Blade movies made enough money (<a href="http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=blade.htm">half a billion dollars</a>) to justify substantial studio support.  PS: Whoever cast Shaq as Steel is going to the same circle of hell as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Schumacher">the guy that put nipples on the Batsuit</a>.</li>
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		<title>Disney announces deal to buy Marvel</title>
		<link>http://www.superheronation.com/2009/09/01/disney-announces-deal-to-buy-marvel/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>B. McKenzie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can see the Associated Press&#8217; take here and The Wall Street Journal has more here (subscription required?).   I have a few thoughts below. Disney is paying roughly $50 per share, which is a 29% premium over Friday&#8217;s closing.  If you own Marvel stock, you will come out ahead quite nicely on this.  It [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see the Associated Press&#8217; take <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090831/ap_on_bi_ge/us_disney_marvel_entertainment">here</a> and The <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125174953071173651.html">Wall Street Journal has more here</a> (subscription required?).   I have a few thoughts below.</p>
<ul>
<li>Disney is paying roughly $50 per share, which is a 29% premium over Friday&#8217;s closing.  If you own Marvel stock, you will come out ahead quite nicely on this.  It was trading around $25 earlier this year.</li>
<li>I am cautiously optimistic that Disney knows how to buy a successful firm without ruining what made it successful.  For example, Pixar&#8217;s movies didn&#8217;t drop in quality after the Disney buyout.  (Nor have they released a lot of straight-to-DVD sequels to successful movies).</li>
<li>I doubt this will have a noticeable impact on Marvel&#8217;s products.  Even the movies.</li>
<li>I think Disney is the biggest loser here.  It&#8217;s betting 4 billion dollars that it can leverage Marvel&#8217;s characters better than Marvel did.  I&#8217;m skeptical.</li>
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		<title>Disco, leisure suits, dancing monkeys and other 1970s abominations</title>
		<link>http://www.superheronation.com/2009/06/29/disco-leisure-suits-dancing-monkeys-and-other-1970s-abominations/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>B. McKenzie</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">GAH.</p>
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