Mar 18 2009

Andy.C’s Review Forum

Published by at 4:27 pm under Review Forums

I’m working on four ideas at the moment.

Unreadable: This is a story of a person stuck in the comic book world, actually thinking of exploring cliches and making fun of them, don’t think I’ll reveal why he’s there though hints and to several versions of why he might be in it will be present.

New Arc Homicide: This is a standard fantasy world that evolved to a 1950′s setting as in a world with magic, elves, dwarfs etc but rather than a typical and overdone medieval setting, it’s set in the 50′s. As you may have guessed, it’s a detective/cop story, only in this reality they’re called knights not cops. Arc, by the way, is short for “arcane.”

Agents of S.E.C.R.E.T: This is sort of an homage to tv shows where agents have powers, like the The Invisible Man, Chuck, etc. Here, agents from various agencies that have powers are turned into a team.

Scythe: The embodiment of Death is murdered.  Because the world needs balance, Death’s powers, in the form of his Scythe, are brought down to earth. Someone touches it and becomes Death. He needs to figure out which of the other immortal beings killed him and why. The other immortals are God (creation) and Lucifer (death), Time and Life.

The Villain Wins: This story starts with a villain telling the reader about how the ultimate goal of villains is the destruction of the hero. During this explanation, a news report is shown of a hero getting defeated by a villain that is telling all this. Then zoom out from the report to show the villain tied up and watching the report, saying “The problem is, that’s not me.” That sets up the story: every hero wants revenge on him and he has to figure out who the hell set him up.

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40 Responses to “Andy.C’s Review Forum”

  1. Marissaon 28 Mar 2009 at 4:36 pm

    Hey, welcome. 😀

  2. Andy.Con 29 Mar 2009 at 3:14 am

    I’m glad to welcomed here 😀

    So I’m going to write a superhero comic book set in modern days.

    Basic plot of my book:

    The main hero of my book an 18 year old Rick Spencer(name might change) leads a fairly normal life, but do to an accident gets superhuman abilities.
    With the help of his best friend he creates a secret identity. After awhile one of his heroic exploits is shot on camera, he becomes the hottest thing to hit the media, but his fame is ill fated when an unknown organization tries to capture him at any cost.

    This is just the basic outline more details will follow soon

  3. The ReTARDISed Whovianon 29 Mar 2009 at 4:12 am

    Hello!

    I have a few questions.

    What are his powers?
    What is his personality like?
    What is his superhero name?
    What is the accident that gives him powers?

  4. Andy.Con 29 Mar 2009 at 5:45 am

    Powers: speed, strength, and some energy based powers, possible flight,
    limited invulnerability guns and other super powered individuals can harm/kill him.

    Personality: basic slacker, doesn’t take the world seriously.

    Name: |work in progress|

    Accident: |work in progress|

  5. Ragged Boyon 29 Mar 2009 at 6:08 am

    Ola! Andy!

    I have questions as well.

    What traits in Rick do you plan to develop over the course of the story?

    What are Rick’s main relationships?

    Who’s your villain?

  6. The ReTARDISed Whovianon 29 Mar 2009 at 6:15 am

    Ah, okay. Is it superspeed and superstrength or just higher than average? Being extremely strong or fast can pose a problem. A superstrong character could rip someone’s head off easily and can only really be challenged by a similarly powered supervillain. A superspeedy character can’t have interesting scenes involving hostages. He could run right in and out, saving them instantly. It makes things too easy. Child about to be hit by car? Zoom, she’s safe. Man about to be stabbed? Zoom, he’s safe.

    My hero has slightly increased strength and speed. He’s a relatively fit teen with strength just above that of an average adult. He can’t throw cars or run like the Flash, so he can have interesting and suspenseful scenes.

    I suspect it would be more interesting to cut out the invulnerability. If he can stand there and get stabbed without dying, it takes the drama out of the scene. You probably want readers to be chewing their fingernails off during fight scenes, but whenever a knife is involved they’ll think “He’ll make it out okay”.

    Guns are harder to defend against. Yes, you can get some interesting scenes out of it, but guns are much more dangerous than knives, decreasing the likelihood that a character would get out alive. If he weasels out of twenty gunfights alive, it will seem like he’s too skilled. In contrast, making it out of twenty knife fights alive is more believable. By grabbing an attacker’s arm, the victim can prevent their own death by distancing the blade from their body. If someone tried that while being attacked by a gun, the killer could pull the trigger.

    What sort of energy powers? My character (Isaac) can create mental blasts by turning air into energy, can use these same blasts to fly and will later gain the ability to make energy spheres.

    Hmm, a slacker. What motivates him to become a superhero? The easiest way to do that would be to put someone he knows in danger, for example, his girlfriend is attacked by a supervillain shortly after the hero gains his powers. The hero decides that someone has to protect the civilians from the evil and becomes a superhero.

  7. Andy.Con 29 Mar 2009 at 6:48 am

    To Ragged Boy

    What exactly do you mean by traits?

    Relationships, as in love interest or do you mean friends, family etc?

    At first the villains will be the “unknown organization”, but after Rick is caught by them he will find out that over the years other meta-humans have been captured as well, after their eventual escape, not all the escapees will turn out to be good guy’s (years of experiments/torture) can get to someones head you know.

  8. Holliequon 29 Mar 2009 at 7:03 am

    By traits, RB means character traits, I think. ‘A slacker’ is an interesting choice for a superhero, but he needs more to his personality than that. Is he arrogant, modest, idealistic, sarcastic, quiet, etc etc?

    When he says relationships, he probably means just about everything. Family, friends, love interests . . .

    I’m also very curious about this best friend. Is it the friend, rather than Rick, who wants him to be a superhero? Also, he’d have to trust someone a lot to let them know he’s suddenly got superpowers.

    I’m curious. Have other super-powered characters been reported by the media, then disappeared, or is Rick the first one to come into the spotlight?

  9. Ragged Boyon 29 Mar 2009 at 7:06 am

    Hollie, hit it right on the head.

  10. Andy.Con 29 Mar 2009 at 8:22 am

    Wow you guys ask a lot of questions, do bare in mind that I’m new at this…

    To The ReTARDISed Whovian

    Invulnerability- as I’ve said limited, he’s not actually going to be invulnerable, his skin will be thicker than average and he will heal faster, basically what would easily kill a normal person will injure him either slightly or severally.

    Speed- He’ll be slower than a race car faster than bicycle 😀

    Energy powers- still thinking what exactly they’ll be

    Motivation for heroics- I thought maybe something like hostage situation to witch he is hesitant to go help out with because he only recently got his powers, when he finally shows up it all goes bad and someone gets killed, he vows to never hesitate again, though now that I think about it sounds maybe a bit to much like Spider-man’s motivation.
    I’ll still have to think about this…

    Holliequ/RB

    his traits: need to think about this as well.

    Yes Rick will be the first to hit the spotlight, as for other super powered characters if they displayed heroics or their powers they were either dismissed as rumors or the press was paid off to not run any stories by the organization.

    Ricks friend- they’ve been friends since they were 6/7 so he trust him completely with his secrets. I’ll definitely consider him for being the motivation for Rick’s heroics.

    Relationships: possible love interest at school or an escapee from the facility, strained relationship with his parent’s do to his slacker life style.

  11. Tomon 29 Mar 2009 at 9:44 am

    Here’s an interesting idea for his motivation. Since he’s a slacker, it wouldn’t be too farfetched if he only became a superhero for the glory. Maybe he saw a news story of another superhero getting lots of attention and thought ‘y’know what, that looks like fun!’

  12. Holliequon 29 Mar 2009 at 9:52 am

    It doesn’t even have to be a superhero – maybe a fireman who rescued someone from a burning building, a cop who sorted out a hostage situation, etc.

  13. Andy.Con 29 Mar 2009 at 9:56 am

    Interesting Tom but Rick is the first ever caught on camera superhuman in my story…

  14. Andy.Con 29 Mar 2009 at 10:06 am

    Oh, I just noticed your post, Holliequ.

    I’ll definitely consider the hero cop/fireman motivation

  15. Tomon 29 Mar 2009 at 10:22 am

    Okay, but the idea’s still valid. He decides to become a superhero for the glory, not to save people. That could lead to some nice character development where he helps people even though there’s no glory involved.

  16. Andy.Con 29 Mar 2009 at 10:42 am

    Yeah, I love your idea, Tom. Thanks.

  17. Tomon 29 Mar 2009 at 10:56 am

    Really? Hooray! My idea is liked!

  18. Andy.Con 29 Mar 2009 at 11:59 am

    Thanks to everyone for the ideas so far, it’s getting late where I live, so…

    I’ll be posting updates on the story throughout the week, and I’m hoping my friend (who’s helping with the comic) will get to making the concept art for some of the characters soon. I’ll post those as well.

    Good night and good luck!

  19. Kynnastonon 30 Mar 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Ciao Andy.C!

    Welcome to SN!

    I agree with Tom, a superhero who gets into heroics for the glory rather than for the people sounds like a very interesting concept.

    I’m not quite sure if anyone else has asked this yet, but what kind of accident was he involved in? Was he the only one or was it a widespread problem?

    Can’t wait to see more!

    Kynna

  20. Anonymouson 31 Mar 2009 at 10:53 am

    I’m still thinking about the accident Kynnaston…
    I’ve had a few ideas but… let’s just say I don’t think they work to well with the story…

    And I’m trying to think of something plausible.

    If anyones got any ideas I’d love to hear them.

  21. Andy.Con 31 Mar 2009 at 11:01 am

    Ups… posted as Anonymous

  22. Sean Higginson 16 Nov 2010 at 12:16 pm

    Just a thought – accidents tend to be over done, (thinking Alex Mack, Luke Cage, Daredevil). Don’t know exactly what ideas you have for your secret organization, but maybe they gave him his powers on purpose as a test subject. The characters a slacker so they assumed they’d be able to watch him without worrying abou him drawing too much attention but then when his powers go public, they need to bring their test subject to a more controlled enviroment.

  23. Sean Higginson 16 Nov 2010 at 12:18 pm

    Woah, I should probably check the date of the last post before I offer advice, don’t know if Andy is coming back.

  24. B. Macon 16 Nov 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Yeah, sometimes I wonder myself. With a lot of people, there’s a flurry of activity, then they get bored or distracted, and then they come back a few months (or even a year) later.

  25. Andy.Con 07 Dec 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Yeah I apologize and yes I am coming back here… it’s a wonderful site… and I didn’t get bored my school/university got in the way… but I’m quitting uni this year, and my time freeing up and one thing I kinda want to focus on is me trying to make a submission to Image comics,

    I’ve dropped my escape story and I’m focusing on 4 new ideas I’ve been kicking around in my brain and I’m gonna develop them, they are:

    (names still works in progress)

    Unreadable –

    a story of a person stuck in the comic book world, actually thinking of exploring cliches and making fun of them, don’t think I’ll reveal why he’s there though hints and to several versions of why he might be in it will be present

    New Arc Homicide –

    standard fantasy world that evolved to a 1950’s setting as a in a world with magic, elves, dwarfs etc but rather than a typical and over done medieval setting it’s set in the 50’s, as you may have guessed a detective/cop story, only in this reality they’re called knights not cops

    Arc btw being a short version of arcane – as in magic

    Agents of S.E.C.R.E.T –

    sort of homage to tv show agents with powers like in the tv show the Invisible man, chuck etc only here agents from various agencies that have powers are turned into a team.

    Scythe –

    the embodiment of Death is murdered, because the world needs balance Death’s powers in the form of his Scythe are brought down to earth, someone touches it wham he’s death and he needs to figure out who of the other immortal beings killed him and why, the other immortals being

    God – creation, Lucifer- destruction, Time and Life

    all specifics for the stories like character names are still a work in progress

    in the words of Tony Stark: Ah it’s good to be back 🙂

  26. Andy.Con 07 Dec 2010 at 4:02 pm

    this time I’m seriously devoting my time to this and will try to come here every day post something new on my progress

    BTW The first thing I plan on seriously writing is Unreadable, Oh and I will also be doing the artwork so might post that as well, also there was a fifth idea that I totally forgot (D’oh!)

    The Villain Wins – Story starts with a villain telling the reader about what the ultimate goal of villains is the destruction of the hero etc while this explanation is going on a news report is shown of a battle and defeat of a hero by the villain that is telling all this then zoom out from the report to the villain tied up and watching the report and saying

    Problem is that’s not me, and that sets up the story every hero wants revenge on him and while he tries to evade them he is investigating who the hell set him up

  27. Andy.Con 07 Dec 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Um any way I could get short versions of all this written in the?

    Andy- is currently yada yada

  28. A.Con 07 Dec 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Oh and is it possible to add the words idea changed read onward or something in my very first response?

  29. B. Macon 07 Dec 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Okay. I think I’ve updated everything above…

    If I could make a suggestion, it may help to focus on one story. Authors only get paid for completing manuscripts.

  30. A.Con 07 Dec 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Sweet thanks B.Mac much appreciated though its 5 stories now not four

    These are ideas that have come to me over the last year, I’m currently focusing on just writing Unreadable

    um any comment on the story ideas themselves? think they have potential?

  31. A.Con 07 Dec 2010 at 7:05 pm

    oh and it’s Lucifer, Life and Time, Life and Time are characters not the description

  32. B. Macon 07 Dec 2010 at 7:19 pm

    The Villain Wins and New Arc Homicide seem to lend themselves best to a coherent plot.

    I think Unreadable, so far, doesn’t sound like it has a very interesting conflict yet. (What would the main character’s goal be?) As for Agents of SECRET, how would it be better than, say, Chuck? (For example, maybe you’d take the character concepts in a totally different direction?)

    Scythe could work, with interesting characters, but it seems to me like a less promising version of New Arc Homicide (characters trying to uncover a supernatural crime, but without the relatability/interest of the cop angle).

  33. A.Con 07 Dec 2010 at 7:40 pm

    Well the goal is surviving the comic book world, imagine a normal person launched into the life a comic book character all the stuff they face on a daily basis add the fact that he knows he’s in a a comic, sees the weirdness of the world, sees the thought/speech balloons when no one else does, maybe he’s gone insane?… maybe not.

  34. A.Con 07 Dec 2010 at 7:45 pm

    and about Agents of Secret I actually haven’t thought that one through yet, I just thought man wouldn’t it be cool if all those super powered secret agents from tv ever met, it’s just an idea if I can’t think up anything interesting for the plot I’ll drop it, so that’s that

  35. A.Con 07 Dec 2010 at 7:52 pm

    btw I should have probably mentioned that it’s more like the world turned into a comic, he’s the only that sees it and he’s suddenly a superhero.

  36. B. Macon 08 Dec 2010 at 1:03 am

    For Unreadable, one possibility that might give you more options would be to do two characters realizing that they’ve been transported into the real world. The most obvious pairing would be two friends, one a comic book fan that’s ecstatic about getting superpowers and another that’s more interested in figuring out what happened. It might give you more potential for conflict than having just one character know what’s going on. For example, depending on the superpowers involved, one or the other may not want to go back. “But I’m a ninja now!”



    On the other hand, it could be worse, like getting caught in a Garth Ennis comic. (“And, in other news, a third of the world’s population was eaten by drug-addled rapist-cannibals”).



    I don’t have any plans to work in characters from “the real world” into the series I’m working on, but if I did, it might go something like this.
    FRANTIC WOMAN: I’m from the real world!
    AGENT ORANGE: I’m from America!
    *FRANTIC WOMAN stares at the mutant alligator and screams.*
    AGENT ORANGE to GARY, surly: Apparently they don’t have alligators in the “real world.”
    GARY, TO WOMAN: Take me with you.

  37. Sean Higginson 08 Dec 2010 at 11:51 am

    Alright, I’ll definitely offer more thoughts at a later point – but thinking about Unreadable, I keep getting mental pictures from the A-Ha music video. Could be interesting to see where it goes though I agree with B.Mac. You’ll have difficulty writing a single character being transported to this different world (or recognizing the changes in his own world that no one else sees). I also really like the idea of one person who wants to stay and one that wants to get home.

  38. Andy.Con 08 Dec 2010 at 11:58 am

    thankfully not a Garth Ennis styled book (I kinda hate his writing)

    Cool ideas but, wouldn’t it be more relate able if there’s only one characters, his point of view and all that?

    Btw sort of had the idea of The Narrator being a sort of second character.
    First being the corny Stan Lee type, but then become more sarcastic and banter with the main character

    N: In the city of _____ a villain rains destruction our only hope is _____

    MC: *sleeping*

    N: I said our only hope is ____, ugh wakey wakey sunshine city needs saving, or do you expect me to stop the bad guy?

    or something along the lines, what do you think?

  39. B. Macon 08 Dec 2010 at 2:17 pm

    “Cool ideas but, wouldn’t it be more relate able if there’s only one characters, his point of view and all that?” I don’t think inserting a second “real-world” character would reduce the relatability or the POV of the first. For one thing, you wouldn’t have to use the second RW character as a POV.

    For example, one possibility would be sending two good friends into the comic book world. The point of view, the main character, is relatively serious and wants to find a way back as soon as possible. The less major character is, for whatever reason, more psyched about the comic book world and decides to use his superpowers to become a superhero. The less major character gets taken hostage by a villain and the main character reluctantly has to try to save him.

    One aspect of this that I think would sort of add to the relatability is that readers might have mixed feelings about the desirability of the comic book world. On the one hand, it’s not real, but on the other hand, being a superhero could be rather cool. Having two characters would make it easier to cover both reactions (“how do I get back?”) and “this is badass!



    As for the narrator as an off-stage character… I think it could maybe work, but I’m not quite feeling the example above (“I said our only hope is ____, ugh wakey wakey sunshine city needs saving, or do you expect me to stop the bad guy?”) It sounds sort of like something aimed at a younger audience, like a Brendan Fraser movie.

  40. Andy.Con 08 Dec 2010 at 2:52 pm

    Well I do want it to be comedic, though you do raise valid points

    Ok say I do use 2 characters, how about this, the one that likes it all is the archetype superhero and the one that doesn’t is sidekick type character and he raises this fact

    I get why you want to stay, your the damn hero with all your fancy superpowers and heavens pearly gates being a revolving door for you guys,

    I’m a sidekick we don’t have the best track record with survivability, I get killed at best I’m back within a year as a crappy xerox copy of myself all deformed and mentally fixated on killing your sorry @ss

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