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	<title>Comments on: Another Five Common Mistakes of Comic Book Writers (#6-10)</title>
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		<title>By: HatiChantheWolfHog</title>
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		<dc:creator>HatiChantheWolfHog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 06:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, deal with the devil and resurrection stories could be interesting, especially if they focused on the survivors guilt aspects or the consequences of striking a Faustian contract with a malevolent being. 

They could even focus on the psychological aspects of said malevolent being instead of hand-waving them as a token evil enemy.  

Though I think a resurrection or deal with the devil plot would work best as an origin story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, deal with the devil and resurrection stories could be interesting, especially if they focused on the survivors guilt aspects or the consequences of striking a Faustian contract with a malevolent being. </p>
<p>They could even focus on the psychological aspects of said malevolent being instead of hand-waving them as a token evil enemy.  </p>
<p>Though I think a resurrection or deal with the devil plot would work best as an origin story.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 11:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, okay.  I don&#039;t think I can help you much on this one, XNS.  Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, okay.  I don&#8217;t think I can help you much on this one, XNS.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: XNS</title>
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		<dc:creator>XNS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 06:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Ehh… I think that the war probably will not be so interesting if most of the protagonists can’t actually die&#039; Well the protagonists can die as in leaving the physical plane, however since the characters are actually a combination of three major planes and the subtle energy system, as well as the story being heavy on spirituality and the supernatural, I thought it would be a tad tedious to make a big deal out of their second, or third deaths.  Furthermore I&#039;d would find the whole characterization of a protagonist to be completely wasted if they decided to give the power entitled to them. 

&#039;In most cases, I think that action villains that cannot kill the protagonists are generally pretty unsatisfying.&#039; The only time I&#039;ve actually found a program to be ruined by a character who you knew couldn&#039;t/wasn&#039;t going to die was in Doctor Who. Especially since the third act of the episode was watching how the doctor overcame the dilemma he was in. Not to mention if that particular actor was leaving you&#039; know because it would be mentioned online,  on a chat show or in a newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Ehh… I think that the war probably will not be so interesting if most of the protagonists can’t actually die&#8217; Well the protagonists can die as in leaving the physical plane, however since the characters are actually a combination of three major planes and the subtle energy system, as well as the story being heavy on spirituality and the supernatural, I thought it would be a tad tedious to make a big deal out of their second, or third deaths.  Furthermore I&#8217;d would find the whole characterization of a protagonist to be completely wasted if they decided to give the power entitled to them. </p>
<p>&#8216;In most cases, I think that action villains that cannot kill the protagonists are generally pretty unsatisfying.&#8217; The only time I&#8217;ve actually found a program to be ruined by a character who you knew couldn&#8217;t/wasn&#8217;t going to die was in Doctor Who. Especially since the third act of the episode was watching how the doctor overcame the dilemma he was in. Not to mention if that particular actor was leaving you&#8217; know because it would be mentioned online,  on a chat show or in a newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There’s only one character who I can see dying once again after the initial resurrection and that would in exactly the same circumstance as the lost their life the first time.&quot;  Ehh... I think that the war probably will not be so interesting if most of the protagonists can&#039;t actually die.  I&#039;d recommend thinking about this some more.  Even if you don&#039;t end up killing many protagonists, I&#039;d recommend at least leaving it as much of an option as possible so that readers won&#039;t know for sure.
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In most cases, I think that action villains that cannot kill the protagonists are generally pretty unsatisfying.  (Unless the death of the protagonist is besides the point for some reason.  For example, in Source Code, the villain is trying to kill Chicago, but the life of the protagonist is never at stake*.  In Pokemon, the characters have fairly high-stakes goals attached to combat that is rarely lethal).  
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*SPOILER: Because he was dead the entire time.  Yeah, don&#039;t think too hard about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There’s only one character who I can see dying once again after the initial resurrection and that would in exactly the same circumstance as the lost their life the first time.&#8221;  Ehh&#8230; I think that the war probably will not be so interesting if most of the protagonists can&#8217;t actually die.  I&#8217;d recommend thinking about this some more.  Even if you don&#8217;t end up killing many protagonists, I&#8217;d recommend at least leaving it as much of an option as possible so that readers won&#8217;t know for sure.<br />
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In most cases, I think that action villains that cannot kill the protagonists are generally pretty unsatisfying.  (Unless the death of the protagonist is besides the point for some reason.  For example, in Source Code, the villain is trying to kill Chicago, but the life of the protagonist is never at stake*.  In Pokemon, the characters have fairly high-stakes goals attached to combat that is rarely lethal).<br />
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*SPOILER: Because he was dead the entire time.  Yeah, don&#8217;t think too hard about it.</p>
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		<title>By: XNS</title>
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		<dc:creator>XNS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>‘“My characters… have access to a vast amount of power.” Are they too powerful relative to the challenges they’re facing?’  
No, not at the start of the series, although right now the only challenges I actually considered giving them were in regards to them learning the mechanics of their powers; and them battling each other to see how they all have grown since the initial team broke up. Although tbh I’ve been focusing more on the planning side of things so I know exactly what’s going to hap;pen and the characterisation and the plot are coming second to the mechanics of the powers and the whole universe. 

‘Generally, I think the antagonists should be more rawly powerful than the protagonists’,  So do I, especially since the main characters are around the thirteen to fifteen age group, and have been moderately sheltered from the war they’re about to enter. A fact that puts me in a bind about how young an age these character’s are going to be dying at and the fact they will find themselves in a position where they have to kill. oR a position where the kill out of pure rage...and one through channeling the powers of his spiritual beast with teeth around a fifteen year olds neck. I’m guessing my story is going to be quite dark. 

As far as the death and resurrection of the main characters go, the resurrection process exists as long as they choose to connected to the power they have inherited. There’s only one character who I can see dying once again after the initial resurrection and that would in exactly the same circumstance as the lost their life the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘“My characters… have access to a vast amount of power.” Are they too powerful relative to the challenges they’re facing?’<br />
No, not at the start of the series, although right now the only challenges I actually considered giving them were in regards to them learning the mechanics of their powers; and them battling each other to see how they all have grown since the initial team broke up. Although tbh I’ve been focusing more on the planning side of things so I know exactly what’s going to hap;pen and the characterisation and the plot are coming second to the mechanics of the powers and the whole universe. </p>
<p>‘Generally, I think the antagonists should be more rawly powerful than the protagonists’,  So do I, especially since the main characters are around the thirteen to fifteen age group, and have been moderately sheltered from the war they’re about to enter. A fact that puts me in a bind about how young an age these character’s are going to be dying at and the fact they will find themselves in a position where they have to kill. oR a position where the kill out of pure rage&#8230;and one through channeling the powers of his spiritual beast with teeth around a fifteen year olds neck. I’m guessing my story is going to be quite dark. </p>
<p>As far as the death and resurrection of the main characters go, the resurrection process exists as long as they choose to connected to the power they have inherited. There’s only one character who I can see dying once again after the initial resurrection and that would in exactly the same circumstance as the lost their life the first time.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My characters... have access to a vast amount of power.&quot;  Are they too powerful relative to the challenges they&#039;re facing?  If not, then I&#039;d recommend buffing the antagonists, raising the obstacles and/or weakening the heroes.  Generally, I think the antagonists should be more rawly powerful than the protagonists, to give the heroes a greater struggle.  
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&quot;To gain access to this power they have to die for a number of reasons concerning to utilization of the power, before being resurrected.&quot;  If the characters can be resurrected again and again, the stakes will probably be low for them because they can&#039;t be physically threatened.  However, if a single resurrection is built into the origin story and they can&#039;t be resurrected again, I don&#039;t think that the prospect of further resurrections would hang over the story and make the action completely pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My characters&#8230; have access to a vast amount of power.&#8221;  Are they too powerful relative to the challenges they&#8217;re facing?  If not, then I&#8217;d recommend buffing the antagonists, raising the obstacles and/or weakening the heroes.  Generally, I think the antagonists should be more rawly powerful than the protagonists, to give the heroes a greater struggle.<br />
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&#8220;To gain access to this power they have to die for a number of reasons concerning to utilization of the power, before being resurrected.&#8221;  If the characters can be resurrected again and again, the stakes will probably be low for them because they can&#8217;t be physically threatened.  However, if a single resurrection is built into the origin story and they can&#8217;t be resurrected again, I don&#8217;t think that the prospect of further resurrections would hang over the story and make the action completely pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: XNS</title>
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		<dc:creator>XNS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 00:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6- My characters are the descendants of the supernals, who in christian mythology are known as the will of the source (God), and therefore have access to a vast amount of power. 
#7- To gain access to this power they have to die for a number of reasons concerning to utilization of the power, before being resurrected. 
To me this all of this is essential to the plot because of the two above are interwoven into each other, no to mention that my characters will be participating in a war, and eventually leading on the battlefield. I was wondering, however, would my readers see it the same way as me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6- My characters are the descendants of the supernals, who in christian mythology are known as the will of the source (God), and therefore have access to a vast amount of power.<br />
#7- To gain access to this power they have to die for a number of reasons concerning to utilization of the power, before being resurrected.<br />
To me this all of this is essential to the plot because of the two above are interwoven into each other, no to mention that my characters will be participating in a war, and eventually leading on the battlefield. I was wondering, however, would my readers see it the same way as me?</p>
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		<title>By: helena</title>
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		<dc:creator>helena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you so much for the comments, will begin making changes now, wanted to let you know that the characters being flawed isn&#039;t an issues as my friends except being less than perfect and as long as its got an edge of humour they won&#039;t object to whatever i write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you so much for the comments, will begin making changes now, wanted to let you know that the characters being flawed isn&#8217;t an issues as my friends except being less than perfect and as long as its got an edge of humour they won&#8217;t object to whatever i write.</p>
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		<title>By: Wings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helena, I&#039;m unsure of how the majority of your character&#039;s names connect with their powers, as at this point they&#039;re rather misleading, with the exception of Blaze. Initially, when I see the names Missy Bubbles, Kinkykix, Misty, and Lilly Flirtatious, I think hydrokinesis, a cereal mascot turned dominatrix, intangibility, and pheromone control, and I end up getting a shapeshifter, a technopath, a psychic, and someone who&#039;s both invisible and intangible. 

The latter set of powers for Lilly is a bit much...You can&#039;t see her, you can&#039;t hit her, so how do you find her and take her out? Unless the villain&#039;s got a Deus Ex Machina on his side, he&#039;s unlikely to. 

In general, most of these abilities are too powerful without suitable weaknesses. Do they have any? 

Basing characters on friends is generally a pretty bad idea. Sure, you care about them, but will the rest of us? Plus, it&#039;s almost impossible to make them flawed because they&#039;ll get mad at you - who wants to be imperfect? Self-inserts tend to be overpowered Mary Sues, and it&#039;s difficult to avoid that. 

- Wings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helena, I&#8217;m unsure of how the majority of your character&#8217;s names connect with their powers, as at this point they&#8217;re rather misleading, with the exception of Blaze. Initially, when I see the names Missy Bubbles, Kinkykix, Misty, and Lilly Flirtatious, I think hydrokinesis, a cereal mascot turned dominatrix, intangibility, and pheromone control, and I end up getting a shapeshifter, a technopath, a psychic, and someone who&#8217;s both invisible and intangible. </p>
<p>The latter set of powers for Lilly is a bit much&#8230;You can&#8217;t see her, you can&#8217;t hit her, so how do you find her and take her out? Unless the villain&#8217;s got a Deus Ex Machina on his side, he&#8217;s unlikely to. </p>
<p>In general, most of these abilities are too powerful without suitable weaknesses. Do they have any? </p>
<p>Basing characters on friends is generally a pretty bad idea. Sure, you care about them, but will the rest of us? Plus, it&#8217;s almost impossible to make them flawed because they&#8217;ll get mad at you &#8211; who wants to be imperfect? Self-inserts tend to be overpowered Mary Sues, and it&#8217;s difficult to avoid that. </p>
<p>- Wings</p>
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		<title>By: B. Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some thoughts and suggestions, Helena.  
&lt;br /&gt;
--I think proofreading more would really help.  In particular, I feel your capitalization has some room for improvement.  
&lt;br /&gt;
--It probably would&#039;ve been more effective to name your characters rather than have your friends do so.  In particular, I&#039;d recommend revisiting Missy Bubbles and Kinkykix.  
&lt;br /&gt;
--&quot;The story was based on my friends...&quot;  You find your friends interesting, but will strangers?  One concern I&#039;d have with this sort of setup is that I suspect you won&#039;t be willing and/or able to round out characters based on your friends with the flaws and rough edges that make characters memorable.  
&lt;br /&gt;
--&quot;The main group of my characters has gone crazy...&quot;  This sounds like a pretty major plot element, but it only got mentioned in that one line.  For example, you described Lilly as flirtatious, but wouldn&#039;t it be more important that she&#039;s crazy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some thoughts and suggestions, Helena.<br />
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&#8211;I think proofreading more would really help.  In particular, I feel your capitalization has some room for improvement.<br />
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&#8211;It probably would&#8217;ve been more effective to name your characters rather than have your friends do so.  In particular, I&#8217;d recommend revisiting Missy Bubbles and Kinkykix.<br />
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&#8211;&#8221;The story was based on my friends&#8230;&#8221;  You find your friends interesting, but will strangers?  One concern I&#8217;d have with this sort of setup is that I suspect you won&#8217;t be willing and/or able to round out characters based on your friends with the flaws and rough edges that make characters memorable.<br />
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&#8211;&#8221;The main group of my characters has gone crazy&#8230;&#8221;  This sounds like a pretty major plot element, but it only got mentioned in that one line.  For example, you described Lilly as flirtatious, but wouldn&#8217;t it be more important that she&#8217;s crazy?</p>
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		<title>By: helena</title>
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		<dc:creator>helena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay so my story has some major problems and i need some advice because i cant sort them all out on my own. admittedly this story is almost surrealist so please bare with me.
i have 5 heros which are the main characters. but the main group of my characters has gone crazy and i have decided to split them into sub stories so readers can choose which cahracters they want to follow after the first book comic but the storys will still interlink from time to time.
1. character names.
the story was based on my friends and i let them pick thier own names.
the five characters are all girls.
Blaze-can fly and shoot fire,Missy Bubbles- is basically an animorph to start with but becomes only able to transform into a wolf later on, kinkykix-can intergrate herself into technological devices and control them, misty- physchic but have yet to put limits to her powers, Lilly flirtacious-invisabity and intangability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay so my story has some major problems and i need some advice because i cant sort them all out on my own. admittedly this story is almost surrealist so please bare with me.<br />
i have 5 heros which are the main characters. but the main group of my characters has gone crazy and i have decided to split them into sub stories so readers can choose which cahracters they want to follow after the first book comic but the storys will still interlink from time to time.<br />
1. character names.<br />
the story was based on my friends and i let them pick thier own names.<br />
the five characters are all girls.<br />
Blaze-can fly and shoot fire,Missy Bubbles- is basically an animorph to start with but becomes only able to transform into a wolf later on, kinkykix-can intergrate herself into technological devices and control them, misty- physchic but have yet to put limits to her powers, Lilly flirtacious-invisabity and intangability.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Oh, for that Marvel and DC comment, I&#039;d like to correct myself. I didn&#039;t mean to imply Dark Tower is relevant to both. In DC&#039;s case, it&#039;d be material like V for Vendetta. Pardon the mistake. I&#039;d have edited it, if this site allowed me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Oh, for that Marvel and DC comment, I&#8217;d like to correct myself. I didn&#8217;t mean to imply Dark Tower is relevant to both. In DC&#8217;s case, it&#8217;d be material like V for Vendetta. Pardon the mistake. I&#8217;d have edited it, if this site allowed me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, I think there are some distinct differences between mangas and comic books. Most obviously would be the need for compression in comic books. Given that most comic books are ~24-32 pages long I think filler would waste a lot of much needed space to advance your story. Readers may feel like they aren’t getting their money’s worth if pages were wasted with dragging fight scenes and superfluous dialogue and the story is hardly advances. To be honest I don’t think I’ve ever heard of ‘filler’ in comic book. Holiday specials and ‘what if’s’ maybe, but not filler.&quot;

Thanks for the reply. I like a challenge.

Filler, is in every medium that&#039;s popular and has a good budget. Or, webfiction in any form. What comics have filler, is not always clear. Till, you weigh in pacing, dialogue, fight scenes, advancing towards a destination (Biomega, is a good example), and whether or not it deviates from the plot arc.

You don&#039;t always hear about it, cause people are more prone to picking filler out from adaptations. Movies, shows, anime, cartoons, etc - where it&#039;s obvious that that story is deviating from the main plot or extending scenes for the sake of not going past the existing timeline for the main story arc. 

In the case of Marvel &amp; DC, a main story arc is only common to their mini arcs. Lasting, only so many issues. I don&#039;t think these companies, are as brave to do much filler, either. I don&#039;t really agree with your idea of What If&#039;s or specials being filler either. As this, would imply Marvel does have massive plot arcs. In which, I&#039;ve never really seen this before in Marvel either. Other then, the stand alone series they do, such as the Dark Tower. 

But even this, has taken the filler out from the Stephen King books. I know, cause I read both. Still, not many fans think Stephen King is horrible for doing this. It, creates an emotional connection. And is done in a way, that may not necessarily be relevant to the plot but is connected to the characters and the world itself. However, the story would not suffer either, as the comics prove if material was removed.

Why I bring this up, is cause it&#039;s only the stand alone series that often have a main story arc from the very first issue to the end, in Marvel and DC. 

However, Archie Comics (Sonic the Hedgehog), Image and Top Cow does not necessarily adhere to this no filler rule. At least, there are times they seem to bend or break the rule.

And for the record, manga/manhwa, on average are released in chapters at 17-23 pages monthly on average. So, if you were right, they&#039;d be out of business. Dragonball, would never sell much magazines back in the day, that you found them in. Correction, even today in North America.

For that matter, neither would Spawn by Todd MacFarlane. Which, does do filler at times. I think, you misinterpreted what I said. Thinking, it&#039;s limited to overseas. Manga, perhaps seems different to comics because of it&#039;s style and cultural references. However, they face the same challenges as any comic found in the world.

The competition is fierce. TV, games - seem more easily accessible, and depending on the needs of the consumer - potentially cheaper for the amount of content. This is a worry, for all comic writers/artists no matter where you are. So, using filler is a huge risk. And, not recommended.

Its better to stick to the main plot arc and push forward. However, in rare cases it&#039;s not wrong to want to extend a dramatic scene, a fight scene, or some dialogue. And, it does happen. Especially with comedies.

In the case of webcomics (a small percentage do) as money makers, this also varies wildly. I know, it&#039;s pointless to argue over the Internet. But, I guess it&#039;s my hope that people don&#039;t blindly follow every rule they come across. Not saying, that you will personally. There are times, you can break or bend the rules to potentially create a better story. Most of the time, it won&#039;t. However, let proof readers and editors help make that decision.

Just as flashbacks are often frowned upon, in some cases people really enjoy them. They like the back story, if done right. I mention this, as an editor in a writer&#039;s magazine made a huge deal about flashbacks. And there are cases, where many stories are better without them. However, there are some in which I can&#039;t imagine reading the story without it. 

It all depends on the story and characters. At anyrate, I&#039;ll argue this point no more. If this were to become serious debate, on the net there would be no end to it. 

Instead, I thank you for you comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, I think there are some distinct differences between mangas and comic books. Most obviously would be the need for compression in comic books. Given that most comic books are ~24-32 pages long I think filler would waste a lot of much needed space to advance your story. Readers may feel like they aren’t getting their money’s worth if pages were wasted with dragging fight scenes and superfluous dialogue and the story is hardly advances. To be honest I don’t think I’ve ever heard of ‘filler’ in comic book. Holiday specials and ‘what if’s’ maybe, but not filler.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. I like a challenge.</p>
<p>Filler, is in every medium that&#8217;s popular and has a good budget. Or, webfiction in any form. What comics have filler, is not always clear. Till, you weigh in pacing, dialogue, fight scenes, advancing towards a destination (Biomega, is a good example), and whether or not it deviates from the plot arc.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t always hear about it, cause people are more prone to picking filler out from adaptations. Movies, shows, anime, cartoons, etc &#8211; where it&#8217;s obvious that that story is deviating from the main plot or extending scenes for the sake of not going past the existing timeline for the main story arc. </p>
<p>In the case of Marvel &amp; DC, a main story arc is only common to their mini arcs. Lasting, only so many issues. I don&#8217;t think these companies, are as brave to do much filler, either. I don&#8217;t really agree with your idea of What If&#8217;s or specials being filler either. As this, would imply Marvel does have massive plot arcs. In which, I&#8217;ve never really seen this before in Marvel either. Other then, the stand alone series they do, such as the Dark Tower. </p>
<p>But even this, has taken the filler out from the Stephen King books. I know, cause I read both. Still, not many fans think Stephen King is horrible for doing this. It, creates an emotional connection. And is done in a way, that may not necessarily be relevant to the plot but is connected to the characters and the world itself. However, the story would not suffer either, as the comics prove if material was removed.</p>
<p>Why I bring this up, is cause it&#8217;s only the stand alone series that often have a main story arc from the very first issue to the end, in Marvel and DC. </p>
<p>However, Archie Comics (Sonic the Hedgehog), Image and Top Cow does not necessarily adhere to this no filler rule. At least, there are times they seem to bend or break the rule.</p>
<p>And for the record, manga/manhwa, on average are released in chapters at 17-23 pages monthly on average. So, if you were right, they&#8217;d be out of business. Dragonball, would never sell much magazines back in the day, that you found them in. Correction, even today in North America.</p>
<p>For that matter, neither would Spawn by Todd MacFarlane. Which, does do filler at times. I think, you misinterpreted what I said. Thinking, it&#8217;s limited to overseas. Manga, perhaps seems different to comics because of it&#8217;s style and cultural references. However, they face the same challenges as any comic found in the world.</p>
<p>The competition is fierce. TV, games &#8211; seem more easily accessible, and depending on the needs of the consumer &#8211; potentially cheaper for the amount of content. This is a worry, for all comic writers/artists no matter where you are. So, using filler is a huge risk. And, not recommended.</p>
<p>Its better to stick to the main plot arc and push forward. However, in rare cases it&#8217;s not wrong to want to extend a dramatic scene, a fight scene, or some dialogue. And, it does happen. Especially with comedies.</p>
<p>In the case of webcomics (a small percentage do) as money makers, this also varies wildly. I know, it&#8217;s pointless to argue over the Internet. But, I guess it&#8217;s my hope that people don&#8217;t blindly follow every rule they come across. Not saying, that you will personally. There are times, you can break or bend the rules to potentially create a better story. Most of the time, it won&#8217;t. However, let proof readers and editors help make that decision.</p>
<p>Just as flashbacks are often frowned upon, in some cases people really enjoy them. They like the back story, if done right. I mention this, as an editor in a writer&#8217;s magazine made a huge deal about flashbacks. And there are cases, where many stories are better without them. However, there are some in which I can&#8217;t imagine reading the story without it. </p>
<p>It all depends on the story and characters. At anyrate, I&#8217;ll argue this point no more. If this were to become serious debate, on the net there would be no end to it. </p>
<p>Instead, I thank you for you comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragged Boy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Besides, there are many mangas that stall their plots with long fight scenes, dialogue, and filler that remain popular.&quot;

Well, I think there are some distinct differences between mangas and comic books. Most obviously would be the need for compression in comic books. Given that most comic books are ~24-32 pages long I think filler would waste a lot of much needed space to advance your story. Readers may feel like they aren&#039;t getting their money&#039;s worth if pages were wasted with dragging fight scenes and superfluous dialogue and the story is hardly advances. To be honest I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever heard of &#039;filler&#039; in comic book. Holiday specials and &#039;what if&#039;s&#039; maybe, but not filler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Besides, there are many mangas that stall their plots with long fight scenes, dialogue, and filler that remain popular.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I think there are some distinct differences between mangas and comic books. Most obviously would be the need for compression in comic books. Given that most comic books are ~24-32 pages long I think filler would waste a lot of much needed space to advance your story. Readers may feel like they aren&#8217;t getting their money&#8217;s worth if pages were wasted with dragging fight scenes and superfluous dialogue and the story is hardly advances. To be honest I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever heard of &#8216;filler&#8217; in comic book. Holiday specials and &#8216;what if&#8217;s&#8217; maybe, but not filler.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted that before I was finished. I hadn&#039;t really finished editing the last paragraph. I was making a reference to another post. Either way, the thought is incomplete. So, ignore it. #6 is detailed enough.

Where I was going with the last paragraph, is limiting a power with great flexibility, like manipulating water.  Or super speed only goes up to a certain speed (ex. not so bad, if the limit is 70 mph with risk of exhaustion or self injury). But, I would have removed that paragraph had I been able to edit it. Anyways, good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted that before I was finished. I hadn&#8217;t really finished editing the last paragraph. I was making a reference to another post. Either way, the thought is incomplete. So, ignore it. #6 is detailed enough.</p>
<p>Where I was going with the last paragraph, is limiting a power with great flexibility, like manipulating water.  Or super speed only goes up to a certain speed (ex. not so bad, if the limit is 70 mph with risk of exhaustion or self injury). But, I would have removed that paragraph had I been able to edit it. Anyways, good article.</p>
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