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		<title>By: B. Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.superheronation.com/2008/08/08/five-more-mistakes-first-time-novelists-make-46-50/comment-page-1/#comment-127734</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: EvilpixieA</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvilpixieA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 18:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad I found this site! It is packed full of good little hints like this that make my fingers itch to get writing! Thank you so much!</description>
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		<title>By: B. Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Delores!  *blushes*</description>
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		<title>By: Delores Quade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delores Quade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to give a note of thanks for this thorough guideline of common mistakes.  I have learned a great deal and have high regards for this website, its articles, and specifically, B. Mac.  
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I&#039;ll be sure to reference you on my website.
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Thanks again.</description>
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I&#8217;ll be sure to reference you on my website.<br />
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Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 05:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;After reading through all these, I would like to comment that many of them do not apply well to manga.&quot;  A point well-taken, but please note that the title of the series is &quot;Mistakes of First-Time Novelists.&quot;  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After reading through all these, I would like to comment that many of them do not apply well to manga.&#8221;  A point well-taken, but please note that the title of the series is &#8220;Mistakes of First-Time Novelists.&#8221;  <img src='http://www.superheronation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Amonite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amonite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 04:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading through all these, I would like to comment that many of them do not apply well to manga. (At least, shojo manga targeted to girls, which is the majority of what I read..)

While there is much to be said for having developed characters, manga seems to be one of those literary forms where Mary Sue-ism is encouraged for a protagonist (so long as she grows), and strange eye and hair colors are used often as a symbolic form to convey character information. (It does help that the artwork accompanies the text.)

Eating and drinking scenes are very common, as how a character eats their food or shops at a market often establishes the character into a basic character type when the reader meets him. Further character development is established as the story goes on, but in a medium that has very little text space to convey information, eating is one of the classic ways to show if the character is a slob or prim and proper. Beyond that, food is also used in many plots to show trying to win affection, looking out for others, or for comedic purposes.

It is the same with waking up. Many wonder animes and manga start with a character waking up.

Not revealing the premise is also a secret of anime and manga - but it must be used wisely. Episode 2 of Seraphim Call is perhaps my favorite use of this (as well as a fine example of how to write a show about someone&#039;s &#039;daily routine&#039;)

Any of the things you spoke of would be bad if done incorrectly. Yet I have also seen them done very well, although usually in mediums that combined art. Even in print, however, over-powerful characters with shallow development can stand out. (As I read recently, someone pointed out that Wolverine&#039;s character development can be summed up as a &#039;cranky Canadian with a murky past.&#039; Yet he is an enjoyable character because he is the &#039;best at what he does&#039;. (Not counting the later X-Men movies.) So how does a character with shallow character development and overpowered skills become so popular, if by your standards both of these are bad?)

I would propose that readers are willing to forgive a great deal of super-powers in their hero so long as it makes sense in the context of the story - and if they have something to latch onto within the character. (Indeed, often it is the anti-heroes and villains which are the more popular, for we sympathize with their failings and their inner thoughts more than we can grasp at the heroes virtue.)

Fairytales are classic examples of Mary-Sues who defy all odds and persecution to meet their prince charming. Today there may be a hundred versions of any given fairytale, each with much more character development and depth and far more exciting to read - but which version is remembered by the masses? The version where Cinderella is a mad-scientist and trades the king a pound of fish for the hand of the prince, or the version where she is the abused stepdaughter whose fairy god-mother turns a pumkin into a carraige?

While a character might be complex and deep, it is important to keep the more basic traits in mind as well. Cinderella, perhaps the biggest Mary Sue there ever was, resonates with the reader because she is poor. She has dreams and longings. She suffered loss, and all that was rightfully hers was taken away. While some Cinderella versions try to downplay the Mary Sue and add complications and depth (The very well written &#039;Ella Enchanted&#039; - not the movie), others play up the Mary Sue and keep the very basics that made her a beloved character. (&#039;Ever After&#039;)

Again, it is not that many of these things you warn against (except perhaps, grammar errors), are mistakes. They are mistakes if done incorrectly. As most - shifts in timeline or POV, are hard to pull off even for seasoned writers, then it is true that every aspect must be treated carefully and it might be better to ask if the fancy extras are truly essential.

Yet I have read pieces where the picking up of a cup, the glance from a window, the touch of a hand, or who ordered what drink was significant. It is good to beware the mundane if it merely is the mundane, but if the mundane reflects the deeper reality of the piece, then it is no longer mundane but essential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading through all these, I would like to comment that many of them do not apply well to manga. (At least, shojo manga targeted to girls, which is the majority of what I read..)</p>
<p>While there is much to be said for having developed characters, manga seems to be one of those literary forms where Mary Sue-ism is encouraged for a protagonist (so long as she grows), and strange eye and hair colors are used often as a symbolic form to convey character information. (It does help that the artwork accompanies the text.)</p>
<p>Eating and drinking scenes are very common, as how a character eats their food or shops at a market often establishes the character into a basic character type when the reader meets him. Further character development is established as the story goes on, but in a medium that has very little text space to convey information, eating is one of the classic ways to show if the character is a slob or prim and proper. Beyond that, food is also used in many plots to show trying to win affection, looking out for others, or for comedic purposes.</p>
<p>It is the same with waking up. Many wonder animes and manga start with a character waking up.</p>
<p>Not revealing the premise is also a secret of anime and manga &#8211; but it must be used wisely. Episode 2 of Seraphim Call is perhaps my favorite use of this (as well as a fine example of how to write a show about someone&#8217;s &#8216;daily routine&#8217;)</p>
<p>Any of the things you spoke of would be bad if done incorrectly. Yet I have also seen them done very well, although usually in mediums that combined art. Even in print, however, over-powerful characters with shallow development can stand out. (As I read recently, someone pointed out that Wolverine&#8217;s character development can be summed up as a &#8216;cranky Canadian with a murky past.&#8217; Yet he is an enjoyable character because he is the &#8216;best at what he does&#8217;. (Not counting the later X-Men movies.) So how does a character with shallow character development and overpowered skills become so popular, if by your standards both of these are bad?)</p>
<p>I would propose that readers are willing to forgive a great deal of super-powers in their hero so long as it makes sense in the context of the story &#8211; and if they have something to latch onto within the character. (Indeed, often it is the anti-heroes and villains which are the more popular, for we sympathize with their failings and their inner thoughts more than we can grasp at the heroes virtue.)</p>
<p>Fairytales are classic examples of Mary-Sues who defy all odds and persecution to meet their prince charming. Today there may be a hundred versions of any given fairytale, each with much more character development and depth and far more exciting to read &#8211; but which version is remembered by the masses? The version where Cinderella is a mad-scientist and trades the king a pound of fish for the hand of the prince, or the version where she is the abused stepdaughter whose fairy god-mother turns a pumkin into a carraige?</p>
<p>While a character might be complex and deep, it is important to keep the more basic traits in mind as well. Cinderella, perhaps the biggest Mary Sue there ever was, resonates with the reader because she is poor. She has dreams and longings. She suffered loss, and all that was rightfully hers was taken away. While some Cinderella versions try to downplay the Mary Sue and add complications and depth (The very well written &#8216;Ella Enchanted&#8217; &#8211; not the movie), others play up the Mary Sue and keep the very basics that made her a beloved character. (&#8216;Ever After&#8217;)</p>
<p>Again, it is not that many of these things you warn against (except perhaps, grammar errors), are mistakes. They are mistakes if done incorrectly. As most &#8211; shifts in timeline or POV, are hard to pull off even for seasoned writers, then it is true that every aspect must be treated carefully and it might be better to ask if the fancy extras are truly essential.</p>
<p>Yet I have read pieces where the picking up of a cup, the glance from a window, the touch of a hand, or who ordered what drink was significant. It is good to beware the mundane if it merely is the mundane, but if the mundane reflects the deeper reality of the piece, then it is no longer mundane but essential.</p>
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		<title>By: Merides</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this site through NaNoWriMo.org.  Great reference- thanks so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this site through NaNoWriMo.org.  Great reference- thanks so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Swapnil Siddharth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swapnil Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site is very good. It&#039;s extremely helpful for a beginner fiction writer, like me. 

thank you for all the tips !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is very good. It&#8217;s extremely helpful for a beginner fiction writer, like me. </p>
<p>thank you for all the tips !</p>
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		<title>By: HUsher</title>
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		<dc:creator>HUsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... ooh. You&#039;re a bad person B.Mac.  
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*Snatches up a bottle of whisky and a shot glass and then pulls up the first chapter*
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Just kidding.  But I do have a spectacular urge to play that game now. 
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Love this site. 47 actually reminded me that I probably *should* exhaustively plan out part three because of the twist at the ending. Many thanks. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; ooh. You&#8217;re a bad person B.Mac.<br />
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*Snatches up a bottle of whisky and a shot glass and then pulls up the first chapter*<br />
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Just kidding.  But I do have a spectacular urge to play that game now.<br />
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Love this site. 47 actually reminded me that I probably *should* exhaustively plan out part three because of the twist at the ending. Many thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god for you. I was paranoid for ages that my book sucked, but I&#039;ve been re-assured. And, this&#039;ll be great advice to make another book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god for you. I was paranoid for ages that my book sucked, but I&#8217;ve been re-assured. And, this&#8217;ll be great advice to make another book.</p>
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		<title>By: KrazE</title>
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		<dc:creator>KrazE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a romantic comedy. I was planning on parodying spiderman via the spiderbite in the first chapter. Other than that I wasn&#039;t planning any superhero references.</description>
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		<title>By: Marissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like a parody, the way you described it using the theme quote from Spiderman. 

What&#039;s the genre? Is it just romance? Are there superpowers involved? (Though you didn&#039;t mention any, it&#039;s always safer to ask, around here.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like a parody, the way you described it using the theme quote from Spiderman. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the genre? Is it just romance? Are there superpowers involved? (Though you didn&#8217;t mention any, it&#8217;s always safer to ask, around here.)</p>
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		<title>By: KrazE</title>
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		<dc:creator>KrazE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this site a couple of days ago. Since then, I have been stuffed with so much info that I will most likely forget everything in two weeks. Even so, I am in love with this site.
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Sucking up is not my reason for commenting, though... ;-)
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I need some novel advice.
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My novel is about adolescent Charles, a 14-year old trapped in a middle-class life. All is average until he gets a major life changer...a girlfriend! Yet, with great women comes great responsibility...
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What will help me write this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this site a couple of days ago. Since then, I have been stuffed with so much info that I will most likely forget everything in two weeks. Even so, I am in love with this site.<br />
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Sucking up is not my reason for commenting, though&#8230; <img src='http://www.superheronation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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I need some novel advice.<br />
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My novel is about adolescent Charles, a 14-year old trapped in a middle-class life. All is average until he gets a major life changer&#8230;a girlfriend! Yet, with great women comes great responsibility&#8230;<br />
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What will help me write this?</p>
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		<title>By: B. Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I&#039;m glad I found this site!  </description>
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